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Setting and influencing the dice roll is just part of the picture. To beat the dice you have to know how to bet the dice. Whether you call it a 'system,' a 'strategy,' or just a way to play - this is the place to discuss it.
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Let's face it. It happens to all of us at one time or another. For whatever reason, the skills we've developed as dice control technicians don't make the transition to the casino tables. Blame it on variance, bad luck, or something you ate for dinner – sometimes the correct craps play is no craps play. So what do you do if you're in the casino and it's one of 'those' days? Here are my personal picks for the games you should play.
1. Sports Book. Benny Binion was once quoted as saying 'Never bet on anything that eats or shits.' Try betting sports and you'll understand why. Sports betting is an extremely tough way to grind out a small profit. Nevertheless, nationwide there are plenty of players making big bucks moving money through books. The downside? You have to do your homework. Unless, of course, you want to shell out money for a handicapping service. Of course, from an advantage players point of view that just adds to the vig. My suggestion? Invest the time to learn how to do your own handicapping. Limit play to the games where you believe you have an edge. And remember, just because you're a Chicago fan doesn't mean 'Da Bears' are going to win Monday night. Bet with your head – not your heart.
2. Poker. Poker is a close second to sports betting in my book. But poker players are completely different kinds of gamblers. Yeah, they have their superstitions just like craps players. I know of one Vegas poker pro who refuses to play with anything but green chips. But at the end of the day poker is a game of skill. Players compete against each other – not against the house. The only 'vig' is a small 'rake' the house takes on each pot. Learn to play properly and it's fairly easy to play with an edge. Invest in some decent poker training software and start out playing on-line for free. Put in your time and by the time you hit the poker rooms you'll good to go. But remember – if you don't know who the sucker is at the table – it's you.
3. Blackjack. Learn to play perfect strategy and count cards and you can play with an edge. You can probably learn a simple strategy like the KO count system with a couple of days practice. Or you can learn the EZ Opt system in a matter of hours. It's not as powerful as the KO system, but it will still let you play with a small advantage. Lotto winning numbers. Pick the best games, learn to count under the radar, mask your skills, and take advantage of the volatility of the game. It's not that difficult to walk away with a win. Some advantage players will argue with me on the next part of the equation. The key is to walk away with that win – not to continue playing and give it back. Employ a loss limit and win objective and focus on ending every session on a win.
4. Video poker. Video poker is another game of skill you can play profitably. Pick the correct game and play correctly and you'll be battling a very small house edge. There are still a few games out there that offer over 100 percent payback to players utilizing perfect mathematical strategy – particularly if you take advantage of the comps you can earn. Learn to play perfect strategy and pick the correct machine by utilizing computerized training program's such as Bob Dancer's Video Poker for Winners.
Craps with your host, THE BONE MAN, a real Las Vegas craps dealer About Us. Next Shooter is authored by a real Las Vegas craps dealer and covers everythingyou'd ever want to know about Craps and then some.
5. Pai Gow Poker. Pai Gow Poker is a card game derived from the Chinese game of Pai Gow, which is played with tiles and dice. The Americanized version is a game that carries a relatively low house edge – particularly if you elect to serve as 'banker' of the game. When you bank the game you pay a five percent commission to the house. You win the bet of any player you beat. The game also has a lot of 'ties' where nobody wins – or loses. Of course, while all this is going on the comp clock is running and you're still earning perks. Pai Gow Poker requires skill in setting of the hands but the dealer will help you out if you're new to the game. A skilled player can gain the advantage over a less knowledgeable player, so you'll want to learn the game as quickly as possible. There are many good books and videos on the subject. John Patrick's Pai Gow Poker DVD ranks right up there in my book.
6. Baccarat. Both Baccarat and Mini-Baccarat are played by the same rules. The major difference is the table minimum and the fact that the croupier deals the cards in Mini-Bac. In traditional Baccarat the players deal the cards. Both games give you the option of betting Player or Bank. The player bet is also a good bet with a house edge of only 1.24 percent. The Baccarat bet a player wants to avoid is the tie bet which is one of the worst bets you can make. The banker bet in Baccarat has a smaller house edge than the player bet but it requires you to pay a commission when you win. The house edge is 1.06 percent for the Banker bet.
Some players believe they can count cards or shuffle track at Baccarat and play with an edge. As far as I'm concerned the jury is out on that one. But because of the low house edge, the ability to flat bet, and a tendency to get streaky – system players enjoy testing their strategies against the game.
7. Roulette. Yeah, I'll get some arguments from the guys who go by math on this one. But for years Roulette was my sit-down game of choice. In a couple of cases I tracked wheels for months, uncovering wheel bias toward particular numbers. I also tracked individual dealer results looking for signatures to good effect. Bottom line – I fared very well against certain properties. On the other hand, I've seen a few dealers who were simply too good at steering the ball. Don't believe me? Track wheel results for a few hours and see if you spot a dealer with a high percentage of hits in the vicinity of the zero or double zero.
If you want to play roulette search out a single zero wheel. Casilando 50 free spins. It cuts the house's edge substantially and gives the dealer one less green slot to shoot for. Odds are the single zero wheels will be in the high limit area so be prepared to play larger bets than you would on a double zero wheel. You should also be prepared for a different level of companionship than you find at the craps game. Roulette is the game where many of the loveliest ladies in the casino hang out, and the game's slow pace give you plenty of time to enjoy the view.
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- Hey YOU! BEFORE REGISTERING Start Reading HERE First!
Welcome to the all new Axis Power Craps forum. Before you register on the forum or get too deep in the belly of the beast, please take a moment to read the posts on this section. Roughly half of the content of this site is for registered members only. There is no instant gratification when registering! All new members require administrative approval that includes an e-mail exchange with a moderator. Details are in this section. Check it out. I promise it will make your stay here much more enjoyable.
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- Attend a Seminar - Buy Heavy's Stuff
Yes, it's the 'shameless self promotion' portion of the board! Heavy has been teaching casino games and dice control for casino craps for over ten years and is recognized as one of the best in the business. This is the place to come to learn more about his upcoming live seminars, his dice control seminar videos, books, and more.
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- So Craps is New to You and You Don't Have a Clue!
The forum name says it all. You're new to the game of craps and don't have a clue where to begin. Pass Line. Don't Pass. Come. Don't Come. Hardways. Big Six. Big Eight. The Horn. Good Grief! Sounds like back when you were trying to make a decision about what to do in the back seat on that first car date. Well never fear! There are a few folks around here who have spent enough time at the tables to be able to answer just about any question you may have. So step right up and get a clue!
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by hotshooterView the latest post
Tue Dec 29, 2020 7:32 pm
- Betting Systems and Strategies for Casino Craps
Setting and influencing the dice roll is just part of the picture. To beat the dice you have to know how to bet the dice. Whether you call it a 'system,' a 'strategy,' or just a way to play - this is the place to discuss it.
Moderators:DarthNater, 22Inside - 882 Topics
- 12309 Posts
- Last postRe: ATS, fire, sharp, repeater
by DarthNaterView the latest post
Sun Jan 31, 2021 12:45 am
- Heavy's Wrong Way Craps
This Forum is Under Construction! By popular demand, it's the return of Heavy's Wrong Way Craps forum - where the discussions focus on the Dark Side of casino craps. Questions about playing the Don'ts, Lay Bets, and Laying Odds? You've come to the right place. You'll find all that - plus Dark Side strategies for Dice Influencers - and MORE! Come on in.
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by GolferView the latest post
Tue Feb 02, 2021 11:11 am
- Games Other Than Craps
Believe it or not, craps is not the only game in the casino. Savvy players are winning at blackjack, poker, video poker, and more. Have a question on slots, video poker, carnival games or table games other than craps? This is the place to post. Let's hear about the games you play when you're not playing craps.
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Craps Forum
Let's face it. It happens to all of us at one time or another. For whatever reason, the skills we've developed as dice control technicians don't make the transition to the casino tables. Blame it on variance, bad luck, or something you ate for dinner – sometimes the correct craps play is no craps play. So what do you do if you're in the casino and it's one of 'those' days? Here are my personal picks for the games you should play.
1. Sports Book. Benny Binion was once quoted as saying 'Never bet on anything that eats or shits.' Try betting sports and you'll understand why. Sports betting is an extremely tough way to grind out a small profit. Nevertheless, nationwide there are plenty of players making big bucks moving money through books. The downside? You have to do your homework. Unless, of course, you want to shell out money for a handicapping service. Of course, from an advantage players point of view that just adds to the vig. My suggestion? Invest the time to learn how to do your own handicapping. Limit play to the games where you believe you have an edge. And remember, just because you're a Chicago fan doesn't mean 'Da Bears' are going to win Monday night. Bet with your head – not your heart.
2. Poker. Poker is a close second to sports betting in my book. But poker players are completely different kinds of gamblers. Yeah, they have their superstitions just like craps players. I know of one Vegas poker pro who refuses to play with anything but green chips. But at the end of the day poker is a game of skill. Players compete against each other – not against the house. The only 'vig' is a small 'rake' the house takes on each pot. Learn to play properly and it's fairly easy to play with an edge. Invest in some decent poker training software and start out playing on-line for free. Put in your time and by the time you hit the poker rooms you'll good to go. But remember – if you don't know who the sucker is at the table – it's you.
3. Blackjack. Learn to play perfect strategy and count cards and you can play with an edge. You can probably learn a simple strategy like the KO count system with a couple of days practice. Or you can learn the EZ Opt system in a matter of hours. It's not as powerful as the KO system, but it will still let you play with a small advantage. Lotto winning numbers. Pick the best games, learn to count under the radar, mask your skills, and take advantage of the volatility of the game. It's not that difficult to walk away with a win. Some advantage players will argue with me on the next part of the equation. The key is to walk away with that win – not to continue playing and give it back. Employ a loss limit and win objective and focus on ending every session on a win.
4. Video poker. Video poker is another game of skill you can play profitably. Pick the correct game and play correctly and you'll be battling a very small house edge. There are still a few games out there that offer over 100 percent payback to players utilizing perfect mathematical strategy – particularly if you take advantage of the comps you can earn. Learn to play perfect strategy and pick the correct machine by utilizing computerized training program's such as Bob Dancer's Video Poker for Winners.
Craps with your host, THE BONE MAN, a real Las Vegas craps dealer About Us. Next Shooter is authored by a real Las Vegas craps dealer and covers everythingyou'd ever want to know about Craps and then some.
5. Pai Gow Poker. Pai Gow Poker is a card game derived from the Chinese game of Pai Gow, which is played with tiles and dice. The Americanized version is a game that carries a relatively low house edge – particularly if you elect to serve as 'banker' of the game. When you bank the game you pay a five percent commission to the house. You win the bet of any player you beat. The game also has a lot of 'ties' where nobody wins – or loses. Of course, while all this is going on the comp clock is running and you're still earning perks. Pai Gow Poker requires skill in setting of the hands but the dealer will help you out if you're new to the game. A skilled player can gain the advantage over a less knowledgeable player, so you'll want to learn the game as quickly as possible. There are many good books and videos on the subject. John Patrick's Pai Gow Poker DVD ranks right up there in my book.
6. Baccarat. Both Baccarat and Mini-Baccarat are played by the same rules. The major difference is the table minimum and the fact that the croupier deals the cards in Mini-Bac. In traditional Baccarat the players deal the cards. Both games give you the option of betting Player or Bank. The player bet is also a good bet with a house edge of only 1.24 percent. The Baccarat bet a player wants to avoid is the tie bet which is one of the worst bets you can make. The banker bet in Baccarat has a smaller house edge than the player bet but it requires you to pay a commission when you win. The house edge is 1.06 percent for the Banker bet.
Some players believe they can count cards or shuffle track at Baccarat and play with an edge. As far as I'm concerned the jury is out on that one. But because of the low house edge, the ability to flat bet, and a tendency to get streaky – system players enjoy testing their strategies against the game.
7. Roulette. Yeah, I'll get some arguments from the guys who go by math on this one. But for years Roulette was my sit-down game of choice. In a couple of cases I tracked wheels for months, uncovering wheel bias toward particular numbers. I also tracked individual dealer results looking for signatures to good effect. Bottom line – I fared very well against certain properties. On the other hand, I've seen a few dealers who were simply too good at steering the ball. Don't believe me? Track wheel results for a few hours and see if you spot a dealer with a high percentage of hits in the vicinity of the zero or double zero.
If you want to play roulette search out a single zero wheel. Casilando 50 free spins. It cuts the house's edge substantially and gives the dealer one less green slot to shoot for. Odds are the single zero wheels will be in the high limit area so be prepared to play larger bets than you would on a double zero wheel. You should also be prepared for a different level of companionship than you find at the craps game. Roulette is the game where many of the loveliest ladies in the casino hang out, and the game's slow pace give you plenty of time to enjoy the view.
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Of course, it's hard to find a cheaper way to play than to utilize the slot 'free play' the casino awards you. If your free play is for a relatively small amount – say $10 – then head to the penny or nickel slots and look for a lightning strike. If you win $25 or more take it to the quarter slots and continue to play. Can you work it up to $100? If so then move on to the $1 slots – then the $5 machines. But don't play your balance down to zero. Cash out for at least the initial $10 the casino gave you. It's free money and it's all yours.
Has the casino gone over the top and issued you a larger free play chit? I recently had $300 in free play to use at one property. I took it directly to the $10 machines and cashed out $450. What's more, the casino's tracking system gave me credit for playing the $300 through the machine, resulting in an additional breakfast comp the next morning. You can't beat free on top of free.
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Bottom line – if the casino is beating you one way there are always other games to play. Take the time to learn them and you may find yourself dollars ahead at the end of the day.
